Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy. Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:32:32 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com> <1819b35cb5854fb7$83258$1308629$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <17a125a3e75f42ff91ef08afdab4e0a9@www.novabbs.com> <1819b79e1aa58c97$89507$1329657$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <9e55d347a16ad439d5b2e75440ae1a6d@www.novabbs.com> <6782d853$0$28064$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <4404fd8d88a2eacd658d92efeef4d6c2@www.novabbs.com> <7db98cab57f6050f8daf2f88b9bfdcdb@www.novabbs.com> <4568ec448c26221aea0c57a6bfc7b29b@www.novabbs.com> <735acd1678938a0da82e207ed024d0fc@www.novabbs.com> <264d3517a178c823b9ec2c973f08cd99@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 11:30:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="473b5ceaf7fd39c595a99823dc52af81"; logging-data="2207328"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Gr3bdYx6zd6tcTEew45/R" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3nrE4u9AED/4yk4JMvWuybZLDdE= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <264d3517a178c823b9ec2c973f08cd99@www.novabbs.com> Bytes: 3571 Den 18.01.2025 22:30, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: > On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 13:15:41 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> >> The equation for the total deflection is: >>    Θₜ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² >> where: >>   Δ = the impact parameter, closest approach to Sun >>   c = speed of light in vacuum >>   G = gravitational constant >>   M = solar mass >>       >> The equation for the deflection observed from the Earth is: >>   Θ = (2GM/Δ⋅c²)⋅(1 + cosφ) >> where: >>  φ  = angle Star-Sun as observed from the Earth >> >> This equation is derived from the equation for total deflection >> with a bit of geometry. >> >> These equations are thoroughly confirmed to be correct because >> experiments have shown that their predictions are correct within >> the precision of the measurements, which are in the order of ±0.005%. >> >> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Hipparcos.pdf >> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini.pdf >> https://paulba.no/paper/Shapiro_2004.pdf >> https://paulba.no/paper/Fomalont.pdf >> https://paulba.no/paper/PPN_gamma_Cassini_2.pdf >> >> >> Do you really believe that the derivation was wrong but >> the result of the derivation was right? > Paul you're doing astrology. I suppose you can tell my Sun sign! From your failure to answer the question I can tell you your answer: "Yes, I Laurence Clark Crossen believe that the derivation of the equation Θₜ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² from GR is wrong, even if I know that the the equation Θₜ = 4GM/Δ⋅c² is correct." Wasn't I correct? Or was I correct? :-D -- Paul https://paulba.no/