Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Most disappointing films. Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 08:35:04 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:35:07 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="170bd8050f8df5292c8d7bbce5390723"; logging-data="3992498"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NHi8nX3AQOnHT990Tr+jAPClq7k5vrf4=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:EHAdf3UZ5B9xXuaZ/OoT4cj5tf8= Bytes: 2965 On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:31:58 +0000, Robert Carnegie wrote: >On 05/03/2025 16:46, Paul S Person wrote: >> I saw /The Empire Strikes Back/ last night. The two-seater aircraft >> (pilot and gunner, back to back) used to attack Imperial Walkers >> towards the start of the film are "Rogue 2", Rogue 3", and Rogue 4", >> per the credits not just on IMDb but shown on the film itself -- >> which, BTW, is the original unaltered LD version Lucas grudgingly >> allowed to be put out on an extras disk. Hey, at least it letterboxed! >> No "Rogue 1" is listed, but then, that call sign was no doubt retired >> after the events in /Rogue One/. > >I think it may be that #1 is (1) "Rogue Leader" >and (2) a named character. I think Luke is in >that fight but in an X-Wing? If one were to go to and search on "rogue", one would find "Rogue 1", "Rogue 2", and "Rogue 3" but no "Rogue Leader".=20 Luke is in a two-person fighter. His gunner (Dak) is listed, as are the other two gunners. Attempts to find a model number have been unavailing, no doubt due to my normal lack of search skills. The phrases I tried all led to /star/fighters, and I'm not sure these were space-capable. Why would a gunner with a harpoon be needed in space? We see in the movie how useful they are against Imperial Walkers. When he evacuates Hoth, he does indeed switch to an X-Wing. He is shown doing this; it isn't that he is suddenly in space with Dak's corpse still in the rear seat. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"