Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Job Offer Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:07:11 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <4GYAP.668109$_N6e.410994@fx17.iad> <9qbetjpheo5f0gike1t2kq0co704h16ln1@4ax.com> <02detjd6g0a8r2advn0d8tpsf8iqrh0m86@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:07:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dcff1486bf31897ca4fc83ba924f9fa2"; logging-data="501043"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18XYRYgamBTpMgh63qSQ+i2dsDB6Rx8U00=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZMh7fLgEiAZI7V824KUZAwVIuOY= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2704 On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> >>> Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool. >> >> It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person. It can be >> greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the person still has to >> work to achieve it. Doing that successfully is an accomplishment. >> >> What's odd is that this discussion group has a few denizens who think >> they can accomplish just as much without that tool. >> >> In modern parlance, they actually are the tools. >> > > I don't think it's binary or Manichean.  That is, both or all can be > true in different examples. > > Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in their > repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much from the same > background (Franklin). Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that his science accomplishments alone would have won Nobel Prizes had they existed. But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was great and he learned it all himself. So I don't need no schooling." -- - Frank Krygowski