Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Job Offer Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:27:15 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <9qbetjpheo5f0gike1t2kq0co704h16ln1@4ax.com> <02detjd6g0a8r2advn0d8tpsf8iqrh0m86@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:27:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1efb1f848442debb0231d328756cb263"; logging-data="539180"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+FokiyD/KBPw0sZHDT4ttq2ICwdix1kFY=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:skaaIax/2MZkCRipW+ATtg6w7mc= Bytes: 2772 On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:07:11 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: >On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>> >>>> Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool. >>> >>> It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person. It can be >>> greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the person still has to >>> work to achieve it. Doing that successfully is an accomplishment. >>> >>> What's odd is that this discussion group has a few denizens who think >>> they can accomplish just as much without that tool. >>> >>> In modern parlance, they actually are the tools. >>> >> >> I don't think it's binary or Manichean.  That is, both or all can be >> true in different examples. >> >> Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in their >> repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much from the same >> background (Franklin). > >Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that his science >accomplishments alone would have won Nobel Prizes had they existed. > >But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was great and he >learned it all himself. So I don't need no schooling." Many people aren't capable of learning by themselves, and some people think it's enough to know what they've been taught. -- C'est bon Soloman