Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Binocular choke extras Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:33:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <1r9gp9h.1k6o87n8sg91cN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <0puqtjprfqavpbi3bktvjjpkefmh53scue@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:33:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c4b72fdb68df3c301ea78d2d76047a96"; logging-data="2146250"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3QRiBFs7XFrxVIGo2ZDHM" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/UlLm3H6SknYSGeV4+4wHqQU73I= sha1:G0z+3hkDZVaXgPnM5dN8AGQM6H4= Bytes: 2885 john larkin wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:39:43 -0400, legg wrote: > >> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:24:36 +0100, Jeroen Belleman >> wrote: >> >>> On 3/19/25 22:40, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> I've just taken delivery of a couple of ferrite 'binocular' choke cores; >>>> each one came with two thinwalled metal tubes and some bits of printed >>>> circuit board. The tubes appear to go through the holes in the choke >>>> and the holes in the boards fit over the ends of the tubes, with copper >>>> areas that could possibly be soldered to them. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know what purpose these serve? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> This sounds very much like the transformers used in wideband RF >>> power amplifiers. See for example Helge Granberg's application >>> note 762. The tubes with a piece of circuit board form the single- >>> turn low impedance winding, and a number of turns of insulated >>> copper wire going through the tubes form the high-impedance >>> winding. This makes for a good coupling factor and consequently >>> good wideband operation. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jeroen Belleman >> >> Can also be used in directional couplers and baluns, which I suppose >> are just high frequency transformers by another name. >> >> RL > > Some people enjoy calling txline transformers "ununs" when neither end > is a balanced load against ground. > > Is there a balbal? It’s a tree, like a baobab with pompoms -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics