Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple tacitly admits their CPUs and new Modem are merely a marketing gimmick Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:59:37 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <76c59e31ac44677e6484fba540ef2ad7a65fb9ec@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:59:38 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d043adaae96c4f2d62862695a27d9ad"; logging-data="1436613"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/aR/fv8w3EK1UP1lLpUHg86hqNmWKQi4M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xgjRcBq3jPWSH6Jpx30Ia2hr+S4= Content-Language: en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3208 On 2025-02-24 10:54, Marion wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:20:41 +1300, Your Name wrote : > > >>>> Let's see, over time, what the tests show on this new Apple C1 modem. >>> >>> This is the part that makes me hesitant to proclaim Apple's success. >>> If they had put it in one of their flagship products that would show >>> their confidence, but they have stuck it in a budget product and >>> publicly lowered expectations by stating it won't achieve the greatest >>> results. >> >> Apple has done that before. The Apple Silicon M-series CPU chips >> debuted in the low-end MacBook Air, 13in MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini, >> before slowly being rolled out to the higher end models, with the top- >> end Mac Pro being the very last to be swapped over from Intel CPUs. > > I realize Apple herd animals are desperate for something (anything!) they > can claim Apple is good at in terms of SOC design, but the sad fact is that > Apple failed at GPU design (and publicly gave up on it) and Apple has False. Every Apple device manufactured today uses an Apple-designed GPU as a part of its system-on-a-chip Apple Silicon system. > failed in desktop CPUs (given they're all unpatchably flawed so far). > > But more to the point, up until this week Apple had failed in 5G modem > design (so far, even teamed up with Intel) but now Apple has "success". > > I don't begrudge Apple their success in 5G modem design. I love it! > I thought Apple would never build a 5G modem until QCOM's patents expired. > > So Apple beat my predictions by about 3 years! > > Of course, I had "assumed" Apple wouldn't release a 5G modem that was the > laughingstock of the technical community - so I assumed it was competitive. > > Time will tell. > > None of us know (yet) whether this new C1 modem is competitive or not. > We just don't. But in a week or so, you'll declare it "crappy" without justification.