Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 06:49:12 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 91 Message-ID: <86y0wxkwfb.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <20250228144442.00002037@yahoo.com> <868qpnw2sn.fsf@linuxsc.com> <8734ftn1fb.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <8634f6n2k8.fsf@linuxsc.com> <_neDP.1161502$_N6e.249216@fx17.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 14:49:15 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c00933fd2fdb83fc14e0f99a9437a0f"; logging-data="101837"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+D692B7QUPSOd/CYwYYdny3lOZpFcdFtk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3I1BXECKcYv4AqjuTxNYr83eBKI= sha1:1qwvcSHjDYF65aR8mvh9TbqXJ7s= Bytes: 4797 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: > scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: > >> Tim Rentsch writes: >> >>> Keith Thompson writes: >>> >>>> IBM developed 80-column cards, with the same overall size, in >>>> the late 1920s. Apparently 80 just happened to be the number >>>> of rectangular holes that could reasonably be accommodated >>>> [...] >>> >>> We don't know that. The same size might have accommodated 85 >>> columns, but was revised down to 80 for other reasons. Or the >>> same size might have accommodated only 77 columns, but it was >>> discovered that 80 columns could work if a different card >>> material was used. The form factor was one constraint, but >>> not the only constraint, and not the only consideration. >> >> I have a hardcover book about punched cards somewhere >> in storage - came from the Burroughs library when they >> closed it. I'll try to dig it out if I get a chance. >> >> Casey, Robert S. and Perry, James W. Editors >> Punched Cards - Their application to science and industry > > https://archive.org/stream/ > PunchedCardsTheirApplicationsToScienceAndIndustry/ > Punched_cards-their_applications_to_science_and_industry_djvu.txt A remarkable document. Thank you for the link. I perused it only briefly before deciding that the 600+ pages (or is it 900+ pages?) had a lot more material than what I was willing to tackle. Thinking it might be interesting, I gathered some information and statistics from the contents, in particular having to do with line widths. After eliminating lines that looked like overly long gibberish (hundreds or thousands of characters), lines that looked like they were meant to be set in a smaller font (mostly footnotes and figure captions), and discarding lines shorter than 66 characters (because they are probably short lines at the end of a paragraph), I came up with these results. 17308 lines, ranging from 66 to 91 characters average: 73.95 characters std dev: 3.48 characters length percent prcntile ------ ------- -------- 66 1.01 1.01 67 1.63 2.64 68 2.62 5.26 69 4.06 9.32 70 6.07 15.39 71 8.35 23.75 72 10.62 34.37 73 11.97 46.33 74 11.88 58.21 75 11.36 69.57 76 9.58 79.15 77 6.75 85.90 78 4.88 90.78 79 3.09 93.87 80 2.19 96.06 81 1.39 97.45 82 0.91 98.35 83 0.69 99.05 84 0.47 99.52 85 0.21 99.73 86 0.13 99.86 87 0.07 99.93 88 0.06 99.99 91 0.01 100.00 Notes: There were only two lines of length 91. I couldn't tell if they were distinct in some way from the other lines (other than being longer). In some cases the line widths are probably too high, because of html-isms like < and so forth. I expect the book uses proportionally spaced fonts rather than fixed-width fonts, but the contents are part of a 

block so that's just a guess.