Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rolf Mantel Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:17:43 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <4s45uj1f7a09kdh5cuau8e2k37snjcm2g5@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:17:44 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5c8e273982a597e246b884293ff70bf"; logging-data="295305"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18A7Z/cdne0Ncl2UynYi6mw" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:S1UexSGh7kBvEJKrJ0L3FKletGg= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3959 Am 27.03.2025 um 13:43 schrieb John B.: > On 27 Mar 2025 11:49:09 GMT, Roger Merriman wrote: > >> Zen Cycle wrote: >>> On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>>> On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. You >>>>>> obviously don't believe that, >>>>> >>>>> I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you. >>>> >>>> Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you now >>>> seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than walking. >>>> Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value from special >>>> protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those two points seem >>>> inconsistent. >>>> >>>> So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views? >>> >>> My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra >>> protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need. >>> >>> >> I find them useful off road as bush protection if like myself one rides the >> path less traveled aka overgrown! So I can essentially use my the helmet to >> push through said bushes! >> >> On road which for me largely is commuting, It provides eye protection with >> the visor from rain/hail and so on. >> >> It’s also quite handy as sort of man bag to put one’s keys/gloves etc at >> cafe stop/shopping etc. >> >> I have no expectations of protection from motor traffic nor does population >> studies seem to suggest that, bike infrastructure seems to do that ie >> Amsterdam and similar cyclists have much lower rates and so on. >> >> But UK isn’t likely to make this a legislation the hurdles to do so are >> large, so I don’t feel forced or otherwise to use one, after all see plenty >> of non helmeted cyclists about be they folks on hire bikes or some utility >> cyclists. >> >> It’s such a non issue at least here. > > I think my reason for wearing a helmet was best :-) > > My wife mentioned one day, "I'd feel better if you wore a helmet", so > I went right out and bought one. Which gave me a big edge in the next > husband-wife argument.... "Well! When you wanted me to wear a helmet I > did....." (:-]) My answer was "High visibility is even more important. What about I buy a bright yellow Gore cycling top?", killing two birds with one stone ;-)