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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 18:09:55 -0700
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On 2025-03-20 19:49, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-03-20 13:18:36 +0000, Bud Frede said:
> 
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 2025-02-25, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't really like the size of the M4 Minis nor the location of the
>>>> power switch.
>>>
>>> Meh. I rarely need to press the power switch, and it's easy enough to
>>> reach. Not a deal breaker at all.
>>
>> I turn off my computers when I'm not using them.
> 
> Me too.
> 
> 
>> The way I have my computers arranged, it would be difficult to reach a
>> power button on the bottom of the Mini.
> 
> There is a hub device you can buy which sits underneath the new Mac Mini 
> and has a notch cutout to make accessing the Mac Mini's powerbutton 
> easier. That is an extra expesnse, but given the sheer lack of ports on 
> Apple devices these days, many users will probably need a hub of some sort.
> 
> 
> 
>> (Too bad power buttons on the keyboard don't seem to be a thing anymore.)
> 
> Yep. That was very useful for powering up my old PowerMac G3.
> 
> 
> 
>> I know it's nit-picking, but I just prefer the older, larger Mini case
>> format over the new, small one. :-)
> 
> There was no real reason or need for Apple to make is smaller.
> 
> Although the new model has a smaller footprint, it is taller, so that 
> means it would not fit under my screen like the old one does. At best I 
> would either have to raise the screen or put a new Mac Mini on its side 
> between the screen and the printer ... that would make accessing the 
> ridiculously placed power button easier.
> 
> There is the bonus of the two ports on the front of the new model, just 
> a pity neither is USB-A for easily plugging in a USB stick.
> 
> Thankfully I don't need to upgrade anyway since this old Mac Mini still 
> works perfectly well.
> 

An idling M4 Mini will draw 4 watts.

That's 8,766 kilowatt-hours a YEAR.

Check your local utility and see what that works out to be per day.

For me, that works out to less that 14¢ per day.

And that's not even SLEEPING!

When sleeping, the only reference I found suggests it uses 0.50W at 110V.

So divide by a factor of EIGHT.