Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AJL Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Shutdown vs. Restart Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 17:46:45 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <0aottjlp05kk73mqs5utee75nsognfpf8j@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 18:46:48 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8e4de25c3b0b8629488cf97bbbab8b4"; logging-data="2394356"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19vJwdmZaEwW41GRbTWhSxB" User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/11) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yDYXCHo1MCDXB5LStR6RvTCSJcI= In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3618 On 3/26/25 8:25 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >Arno Welzel wrote: >> Steve Hayes, 2025-03-24 10:04: >> >> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:16:17 -0400, micky >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Learned recently that in later versions of windows, Shutdown does not >> >> completely shut down windows but Restart does. >> >> >> >> Is that true in Android too? >> > >> > In Windows, I'm pretty sure it is the other way round. >> > >> > Restart doesn't completely shut down Windows, but shutdown does. >> >> No, it's exactly the opposite - because "shutdown" is what people do all >> the time when they want turn off their computers. For this very reason >> Windows does only hibernate by default - which means it stores the >> current RAM content on the SSD so the last state including all open >> applications will be restored when turning on the computer the next time. >Sorry, but that's not correct. If you do a 'Shut down' the system will >only save the OS to 'disk', not the open applications. I always thought the Windows OS was permanently on the 'disk' and thus didn't need to be resaved at each shutdown. >And it will only >save to 'disk' if Fast Startup is enabled (which is the default). For the first time in decades (IIRC I started at DOS 5) I'm going Windows free. I gave away my last LT to a greatgrandkid and will now live on Android and Chrome OS. (Also Fire OS but that's really Android.) So it's now fast start for me for the duration. Whoopee... 8-O > N.B. If your comment was correct, there would be no 'Hibernate' choice >in the 'Power' menu. > >> However when a user does *restart* Windows, then he does that to make >> sure, the system is in a defined state - and for this reasons Windows >> will *not* hibernate and restore the current state when it is restarted. > > It's actually better to do a Shut down (with Fast Restart disabled), >wait some time and then do a bootup, to get the software and hardware in >a defined 'cold' bootup state. Some electronics, mainly capacitors but >also some other electronics, can take some time to get back in their >'cold' state. Most of the time a Restart will be enough, but for strange >problems it's wise to try Shut down, wait, power on/bootup. > > For an authorative reference: > >Message-ID: >