Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Phones and apps forced on you Date: 9 Mar 2025 12:12:26 GMT Organization: Stefan Ram Lines: 19 Expires: 1 Mar 2026 11:59:58 GMT Message-ID: References: <803e9lxp44.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1begjrynfhjra$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <1bfu5iribmwb4$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <96uj9lxjvi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <17fmpgc4tfncj$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <9kqk9lx6m3.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1r6si9zdyx9ek.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <1vum9lxhu1.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <1hb68gbht5hgg$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <93eo9lxg6r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <7sbrtsehnbnu.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <1d7jrv42y0fqb$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de y7Bi6pFYZEDyAEwnVcfFuAGfH+JyOBv1MVGwmLlgl5Gpau Cancel-Lock: sha1:/GOudHN5QP2SJLnZM226hp9S8so= sha256:07NsNl76w9RcrC2P1E1SY7HeUR/jhhNQWMuXqEd76DE= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2025 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved. Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the Web, to change URIs of this article into links, and to transfer the body without this notice, but quotations of parts in other Usenet posts are allowed. X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is set, because this prevents some services to mirror the article in the web. But the article may be kept on a Usenet archive server with only NNTP access. X-No-Html: yes Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2973 Marion wrote or quoted: >What do you think of this free sleep app that doesn't have advertisements? While I'm currently not able to look at this app, I can say that I often lie without motion while still being awake at night, so I doubt such a device would be able to detect I'm awake. Instead I'm just pressing the power button of my mobile device sometimes while I'm awake. Then, in the next morning, I can read the times of these events from a log and transfer my sleep times to a spreadsheet (still on the mobile device) where I then analyze them using my custom formulas. One can also buy sleep trackers that track the sleep using electrodes at the head with prices starting below $1000 and exceeding $25000 depending on the quality. But the handling and maintenance would probably be too time-consuming for me.