Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:35:17 +0000
Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <nbReP.633803$oR74.271654@fx16.iad>
 <NnVeP.44028$vfee.11890@fx45.iad> <vo6ubb$3ue2q$2@dont-email.me>
 <RhOdnY5Kb8vulDr6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <vo7lp6$25uo$2@dont-email.me>
 <655acbf6-05e5-69ff-8a44-9f7075aafa2e@example.net>
 <ddNpP.567620$iNI.244105@fx14.iad> <m0pqs3ForauU2@mid.individual.net>
 <g9qcnUmy1pxdrTX6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <m0r59mFrbnU1@mid.individual.net> <yn0qP.587031$iNI.359829@fx14.iad>
 <VtWdnaJY5fz99zT6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <20250210093054.00001375@gmail.com> <vofgo6$1p8fn$1@dont-email.me>
 <KwSdnd_yRPwhvjH6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <20250212081704.00003ce1@gmail.com>
 <slrnvqq09r.38buj.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
 <DKOcnSWcJP6OgTD6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <20250212145430.00001040@gmail.com> <vojqqp$2klsq$2@dont-email.me>
 <6fqdnVeJects6jD6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <20250213080300.00001d26@gmail.com> <volcpu$30n7k$3@dont-email.me>
 <voq1ju$v3u$6@dont-email.me>
From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:35:16 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/78.13.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <voq1ju$v3u$6@dont-email.me>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <Z1ednQx_yfh60yz6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Lines: 44
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
X-Trace: sv3-ZYB2Gm9ClK3RHqs05vg408KRrCkrmJEMxZll1nPCSF4fm48I3QkZwvEuMqc+kf2o0dUept+lPDPeIKS!8pdfiv5LgH1FhlYik91N38PrY1pZWrxCasCEQbHBuyWoC2VJ3r5phpN/tYU4Cg5pCadcSAtNKW4w
X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com
X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40

On 2/15/25 7:34 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
> 
>> On 13/02/2025 16:03, John Ames wrote:
>>>    Pascal,
>>> on the other hand, gets no performance advantage, while burdening the
>>> programmer with all the bookkeeping that is*necessary*  for safety in
>>> languages like C, even though it keeps all the information needed to
>>> provide a less burdensome, more convenient alternative. Truly deranged.
>>
>> My one and only experience of Pascal was trying to interface with a
>> pseudo ram disk. It proved impossible to read a sector and then use two
>> bytes here as 16 bit address - a byte there as something else and then
>> maybe the whole sector as a data sector.
>> I rewrote it in C and just cast pointers into the sector to pick up
>> whatever I needed.
>>
>> Will never ever touch Pascal again. Heap of shit for rank amateurs
> 
> I got exposed, accidentally, to Borland's Delphi (Object Pascal)
> when our group started using Borland C++. Found myself in the debugger
> stepping through Pascal-like code.
> 
> Sic transit gloria Borland.


   The Borland products were GREAT STUFF from TP v1.0,
   a whole different experience, a whole new level of
   productivity.

   Delphi - well - really good, but they went all weird
   on the pricing. Lazarus is a VERY close clone and costs
   nothing (plus is cross-platform) so ....

   In any case, even now, if I need a decent GUI then
   I generally program in Laz/FPC. Yep, the 'look and
   feel' is kinda Win98/2k, but what works, works.
   'C' can sometimes Get It Done smaller/easier - but
   the GUI builders can be a real pain, and time-eaters,
   to deal with.

   Anyway, to each need, the correct tool.

   Now just waiting on FORTRAN GUI-BUILDER  :-)