Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Frank Slootweg Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones. Date: 28 Mar 2025 20:13:24 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <6e38blx7kp.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net yDkmFrEU/AP911VfV5NKyQyYlZvOubEHoY+oFgsPrD0xbW/XpV X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:Pgs3kKkaJYNFBHaqjj0D3EiKgHc= sha256:01PRCwnyszRojIbnBv19TyDMDBhoLRqgCZZHLKjJr+o= User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 Bytes: 3488 Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-03-28 19:31, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-03-27 10:32, Arno Welzel wrote: > >>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-26 15:36: > >>> > >>>> On 26.03.25 14:10, Arno Welzel wrote: > >>>>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-24 21:40: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 24.03.25 14:31, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >>>>>>> I don't see the link. You said "RCS is forbidden as well", which is > >>>>>>> different of "not supported". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I repeat it for you and Arlen: Nobody needs RCS and in particular nobody > >>>>>> wants it. It is an inferior and insecure service. Full stop. > >>>>> > >>>>> E-Mail is also insecure and still used world wide nevertheless. > >>>> > >>>> Asymmetric encryption for e-mail exists. > >>>> OpenPGP und S/MIME are much more powerful than anything these messengers > >>>> offer. > >>> > >>> Yes, but both are not used widely used since encryption is optional for > >>> e-mail and not mandatory. > >> > >> Normal people find it difficult to use. I have only succeeded using it > >> it with computer geeks, not with lawyers or banks. > > > > Just attach the .eml file in a WhatsApp message! :-) > > Hum! No idea if whatsapp encrypts attachments. Not all email clients do. A WhatsApp message is end-to-end encrypted, including any attachments, media, etc.. So the sender and recipient can see the .eml file in the clear, but no-one else can. BTW, of course my 'suggestion' was in jest. > Reminds me of a different issue: whatsapp backups. By default, they are > not encrypted. I tried to enable encryption for a month or so, but most > days it failed. In the end, I had to disable it. I think that's a general issue of one's Google Account storage. Is it encrypted or not? I encrypt my Google Drive backup, but don't know about the other parts, i.e. WhatsApp backup, Gmail, others. > There is a court case here where the accused deletes everything > periodically, so the court is now trying to get access to the backups. > Yes, both Google and Whatsapp have promised to help. Interesting. Keep us posted.