Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:56:39 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <67d9867b-2614-4475-975c-938bafca5c00@att.net> <4a810760-86a1-44bb-a191-28f70e0b361b@att.net> <23311c1a-1487-4ee4-a822-cd965bd024a0@att.net> <71758f338eb239b7419418f49dfd8177c59d778b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 00:56:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f777e730b2e8168ebcdb2932c05660c1"; logging-data="3803189"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tXhmElvnP2+9J1kRZKKK2qxZ60OWKZKo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1SYuDel3lexreti57w8+h1KGDd8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3612 On 12/2/2024 3:53 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: > Chris M. Thomasson brought next idea : >> On 11/30/2024 3:12 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 30.11.2024 11:57, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>> WM explained : >>>>> On 29.11.2024 22:50, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>>> WM wrote on 11/29/2024 : >>>>> >>>>>>> The size of the intersection remains infinite as long as all >>>>>>> endsegments remain infinite (= as long as only infinite >>>>>>> endsegments are considered). >>>>>> >>>>>> Endsegments are defined as infinite, >>>>> >>>>> Endsegments are defined as endsegments. They have been defined by >>>>> myself many years ago. >>>> >>>> As what is left after not considering a finite initial segment in >>>> your new set and considering only the tail of the sequence. >>> >>> Not quite but roughly. The precise definitions are: >>> Finite initial segment F(n) = {1, 2, 3, ..., n}. >> >> Finite? Huh? The natural numbers don't stop at n! WTF!!!!  Lay off the >> drugs. > > That ordered set has a first element namely '1' and a last element, > namely 'n' so yes, it is finite. I was thinking that WM thinks that n is a magical largest natural number. { 1, 2, 3, ... } = the_set_of_all_natural_numbers Not showing an end point for it ala n. I got confused. > >>> Endsegment E(n) = {n, n+1, n+2, ...} > > This is his definition of endsegment, which as almost anyone can see, > has no last element, so yes it is infinite. He says 'infinite > endsegment' as if there were a choice, only to add confusion.