Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 10:00:04 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <98519289-0542-40ce-886e-b50b401ef8cf@att.net> <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <6db7afa9-f1e1-4d2b-beba-a5fc7a8b8686@att.net> <53806d5c-f456-4c13-8506-24c0b9ab310e@att.net> <931a709f-7dc7-46ed-a1a2-d0e1b60fc542@att.net> <0c4df4ba-a731-46ce-b2ef-80a497cf58eb@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 10:00:04 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ae605ac3e7bf74a89532ac4e88c94750"; logging-data="2240672"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18pF4rN1dyElpwudSsbKa43QVmjdPzrUFs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ljYASp9GLvE+lvRuKE7RY8RbDJY= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3093 On 06.01.2025 22:51, FromTheRafters wrote: > WM presented the following explanation : >> On 06.01.2025 19:23, FromTheRafters wrote: >>> WM pretended : >>> >>>> 0 is a cardinal but not an ordinal. >>> >>> Wrong. >> >> Who is the zeroest clown? > > Okay, maybe not with "your" definition of the ordinal numbers. Ordinal numbers may be written in English with numerals and letter suffixes: 1st, 2nd or 2d, 3rd or 3d, 4th, 11th, 21st, 101st, 477th, etc [Wikipedia] > This is > mathematics, No, that is matheology, a ferquently disproven theory, nowadays only supported by stultified persons. The clearest contradiction is this: Every union of FISONs {1, 2, 3, ..., n} which stay below a certain threshold stays below that threshold. Every FISON stays below 1 % of ℕ because when extended by 100 {1, 2, 3, ..., 100n} is less than ℕ. The FISONs form a potentially infinite collection whereas ℕ is an invariable set with |ℕ| is a fixed transfinite number larger than every finite number |{1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = n. Regards, WM