Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 13:26:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <142457fc4decc9ed126a3ededf9ad07084d21311@i2pn2.org> References: <98baf83e-820e-4e1b-be2c-e5ea4802683d@att.net> <0876c2b9-2144-44c1-a26b-20176f5e2127@att.net> <067f772a-4f4c-4c27-8042-3f605f814876@att.net> <558a879a-4130-476a-8b5d-d53cd371919b@att.net> <04dd7515-297c-4e7c-9e6a-a4f43e663552@att.net> <43c020cb-dc8b-4feb-be1d-2a76f02be14e@att.net> <19431656-fb42-4569-9334-b5b7e19c80c6@att.net> <4b45ff34-dc3f-4e32-90a3-237f78fbd321@att.net> <2e5bced50a3571e40311d75977f0880db77fe5a1@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 13:26:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2326961"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2473 Lines: 15 Am Sat, 01 Mar 2025 12:58:28 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 28.02.2025 18:25, joes wrote: >> Am Fri, 28 Feb 2025 18:04:33 +0100 schrieb WM: > >> Zermelo doesn't say that Z is in Z. > But he says that the infinite Z exists because of his induction. > >>> Therefore we use FISONs without approaching ℕ. >> They do reach N in the limit. > No. ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. Note for all! The limit > cannot exist without bridging this infinite gap. Taking a limit "bridges the gap". -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.