Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: sobriquet Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How? ? ? Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:24:35 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <8ayY53o1aL2fUNz0m8yFYT0IDlI@jntp> <9BkxcJ5ewVCjoKso7k5nyQL2e1w@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:24:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e9235b003b13d6aa61ecb0a9388409da"; logging-data="2115335"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+J22VQmBtwwvvDPxqvRZlaKOphIepO480=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:tVnyhhkpfN67Ai34cdLV2HocUsQ= Content-Language: nl, en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2606 Op 02/04/2025 om 15:14 schreef efji: > Le 02/04/2025 à 15:05, Richard Hachel a écrit : >> Le 02/04/2025 à 14:49, efji a écrit : >>> Le 02/04/2025 à 14:32, Richard Hachel a écrit : >>>> How can mathematicians come up with such absurdities? >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZriBHTNPw0 >>>> >>> >>> No mathematician would write \sqrt{i} because the symbol "\sqrt" >>> designs the positive square root of a real number, which does not >>> make sense in \C since it is not an ordered set and the word >>> "positive" is a nonsense in \C. >>> >>> Anyway, "i" has 2 square roots : ±(1+i)/\sqrt{2} >>> and "-i" too : ±(1-i)/\sqrt{2} >>> Thus, the mathematically wrong expression "\sqrt{i}+\sqrt{-i}" is non >>> univoque and could be any of these 4 values : >>> >>> ±\sqrt{2}, ±i\sqrt{2} >>> >>> You're welcome >> >> Four possible values? >> >> To think that Python gave us a nervous breakdown when I explained that >> a function could have multiple roots, which was actually true. >> >> But here, we're falling into the opposite madness. >> >> We add two numbers, and we find four answers, which is stupid, to say >> the least. > > We don't add two numbers since \sqrt{i} is not a number because this > notation is a nonsense ! Can you read carefully what I wrote ??? It seems to work just fine in wolfram alpha (desmos in complex mode gives the same answer). https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=sqrt%28i%29 https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ztfet88jmu