Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:04:38 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <20250226100438.00006728@gmail.com> References: <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <1976765442.762208809.808387.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <20250225130315.00004e34@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:04:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6cc8617c265c758f2fc4ef0ea424ae7c"; logging-data="2803064"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Cqt4EujNbMpjqVi68K5pQGtmHTche/ek=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:L+ERV/8kOeFyrcV+aAKH9Rcl/5w= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2733 On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:13:35 -0500 c186282 wrote: > > * (Having started on micros of the early '90s, the idea of a > > computing environment where assembly isn't just a systems- > > implementation thing but a first-class applications language is > > quite intriguing to me...) > > Used to be a kinda main/common thing. > > Compilers were new and expensive. Apps were still kinda small. So, > ASM was often The Way - and provided The Most fine control. Indeed - and the architectures were designed to facilitate it. 'Course, as has been discussed, that eventually led to creeping featurism and terminal over-engineering and finally birthed RISC design, but it's interesting to think back on the period where there really was a happy medium...