Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Kestrel Clayton Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: How To Teach Evolution To A Creationist Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 23:15:34 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <35eeujt3fpdurvl7ts0nk0ea0v66ouv865@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="23302"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:qLGx/SxV57gIkRMKNRRSAQksc7k= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 188BB22978C; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 23:15:51 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA7EC229783 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2025 23:15:48 -0400 (EDT) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 52T3FcUk2874877 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 04:15:40 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D3F8622C1 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 03:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/0D3F8622C1; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 910FCDC01CA; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 04:15:36 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 04:15:36 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <35eeujt3fpdurvl7ts0nk0ea0v66ouv865@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/jGOjSh06n0xfWLqc0tMjuZJ++YV7oHQrBSawP0ZgXf5BMHHUZGv4W DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3597 On 28-Mar-25 20:02, jillery wrote: [ other stuff snipped ] > Mentioning skin color is a such a blatant no-no nowadays, that only > the most clueless would evoke it. OTOH T.O. has seen more subtle > versions of that line of reasoning, ex. gaslighting transgenders, > atheists, and other POVs different from their own. Just FYI, most transgender people prefer to be described as, well, "transgender people." Or "transgender folks," if you like. The thinking is describing minoritized folks with just an adjective ("transgenders," "Blacks," et cetera) can be a bit dehumanizing. Thanks! [ also snipping the rest of your post, with apologies ] -- [The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.] Kestrel Clayton "Every normal woman must be tempted, at times, to stoke the fire, host the black mass, and begin eating hearts." — Rose Bailey