Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 13:00:56 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <0306c3c2d4a6d05a8bb7441c0b23d325aeac3d7b@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 20:00:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a561e93eaba3cd97d9344a7e666c556e"; logging-data="3880587"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX184an+KvSJKdsDcM+f6lETT" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8KEiGfj9uhYCkmSU8aKLJIvzWhM= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250401-4, 4/1/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 2942 On 4/1/2025 1:36 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-03-31 18:29:32 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 3/31/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-03-30 11:20:05 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>> You have never expressed any disagreement with the starting points of >>> Tarski's proof. You have ever claimed that any of Tarski's inferences >>> were not truth preserving. But you have claimed that the last one of >>> these truth preservin transformation has produced a false conclusion. >>> >> >> It is ALWAYS IMPOSSIBLE to specify True(X) ∧ ~Provable(X) >> (what Tarski proved) when-so-ever True(X) ≡ Provable(X). >> https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_275_276.pdf > > Tarski's proof was not about provability. Gödel had already proved > that there are unprovable true sentences. Tarski's work is about > definability. > https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_275_276.pdf Step (3) is self-contradictory, thus his whole proof fails. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer