Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:56:12 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <3ac6ad6b1a88e70e573c2481f536acd6401cfb21@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 16:56:12 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="277972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2799 Lines: 29 Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:49:49 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 15.03.2025 12:32, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 15 Mar 2025 09:56:31 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 15.03.2025 00:11, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>> WM wrote: >>> >>>>> ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not >>>>> result in the empty set. >>>> What does "which" refer to? >>> It refers to the numbers. An Englishman should comprehend that. >> It could also have referred to the set. But in this case, N_def=N. > ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not > result in the empty set. For every number in N, if you subtract that number, a nonempty set remains. Of course, if you subtract all of them, nothing does. > ℕ contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does result in > the empty set. No element of N, subtracted from N, leaves the empty set (because N contains more than one element). >>>> To N_def or to a member of the "all numbers"? >>> That is one and the same. >> No. N_def is not a number. > ℕ_def contains all numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not > result in the empty set. Yes, N_def is a set. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.