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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 10:09:17 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <868qp1ra5f.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20250319115550.0000676f@yahoo.com> <20250319201903.00005452@yahoo.com> <86r02roqdq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <86o6xpk8sn.fsf@linuxsc.com> <86frj1jpem.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20250325151657.563@kylheku.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 10:09:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9e00a15ae379d2cae7edd65ac25a9709"; logging-data="1408683"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ZTFC6fqpERFCBbcp/E7t683KnII6V358=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:3dQclxpbdsI0aqmWtJVAnlkV5mA= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3373 On 26/03/2025 00:14, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 25/03/2025 22:36, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >> On 2025-03-25, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> On 25/03/2025 11:55, Tim Rentsch wrote: > > > >>>> The problem is that what was written used the word "integral" >>>> incorrectly. >>> >>> But "integer type" is also a problem. 'Integer' is a noun, not an >>> adjective. To modify the noun 'type' you need an adjective that >>> means 'of, pertaining to, or being an integer'. The only >>> available candidate is 'integral'. >> >> How can you post that from of the proximity of the birth place >> of the English language? >> >> The English language features noun phrases (NPs), and in that >> category are found compound nouns.  Compound nouns have a head. The head >> is always the rightmost element of the sequence. The other nouns modify >> the head as if they were adjectives. > Just as all nouns can be verbed, they can also all be adjectived :-) > But 'integral' modifies 'type' because it /is/ an adjective. Hard to see > how a charge of 'incorrect' can be justified. > Kaz' point is not that "integral type" is grammatically incorrect, but that "integer type" /is/ grammatically correct. Either could be used. Tim's argument that "integral type" is wrong is, I would say - based on /my/ everyday English and /my/ mathematical education - invalid. Either "integer type" or "integral type" could be used, but "integer type" is the more common usage in most programming languages, and is therefore arguably a better choice for the C standards.