Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 09:16:17 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="36cff22e2bbce90c63e390e25cbe9050"; logging-data="3129451"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19dHVdjAn+P6C71Qd2qio5fE0uSCpSgP2Jd7i46g8IkeQ==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ONt0h6kGI+yhYkt7B6z+ADmslf0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3219 On 04/04/2025 09:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:41:35 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote: > >> On 04/04/2025 08:21, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>> At every point N, we have the first N digits of our >>> hypothetical number-that-is-not-in-the-list. But we have an infinitude >>> of remaining numbers in the list we haven’t looked at, among which all >>> possible combinations of those N digits will occur. >> >> Show me your first N digits, and I'll show you a counterexample. > > Counterexample to what? Your claim: >>> At every point N, we have the first N digits of our >>> hypothetical number-that-is-not-in-the-list. But we have >>> an infinitude of remaining numbers in the list we haven’t >>> looked at, among which all possible combinations of those >>> N digits will occur. > >>> Therefore there is guaranteed to be some number we haven’t looked at >>> yet with all those first N digits the same. >> >> And yet you still won't post those first N digits. > > Digit 1 is the first digit of entry 1 in the list. > Digit 2 is the second digit of entry 2 in the list. > . > . > . > Digit N is the Nth digit of entry N in the list. All right, from your data I deduce that your list is: 11 22 and that your Cantor construction to date is 12. My counterexample for that rather unchallenging case is: n=1: 11 n=2: 22 n>=3: 3*10^n Since all elements (except your two openers) begin with a 3, none of them start 12, and so after just two iterations we have already constructed a number that's not in the infinite list. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within