Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 05:58:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <0dcd52f8-c0ca-4e41-bb47-3a4e689f103e@att.net> <578344c0-4d58-4dcb-8a89-988e3e60f9d7@att.net> <3a9f34ab-c270-4dfc-b23c-14741b68875b@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 05:58:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="91883810023d13cac2329fd5614bd4f4"; logging-data="3601180"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198iui5wKI5cZBj5Yv3eYnBXHY5SekXESo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Tg4wyf6i3dPDX8OzzrZIOi945hY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <3a9f34ab-c270-4dfc-b23c-14741b68875b@att.net> Bytes: 2967 On 17.03.2025 05:23, Jim Burns wrote: > On 3/16/2025 6:22 PM, WM wrote: >> On 16.03.2025 20:41, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 3/16/2025 3:27 PM, WM wrote: > >>>> The question here is >>>> the index of the first disappearance of Bob. >>> >>> The answer requires you to know what 'finite' means. >> >> Answer using your definition of >> finite index or finite natural number. > > You misunderstand. > > I don't need to find out what 'finite' means. Then apply your version of "finite" and answer at which finite index the first loss in lossless exchange happens. > > Do you (WM) know what 'finite' means? Yes, it means the index is a natural number. > Whatever. > The result is the same: I can't tell you (WM). If you can't tell me the number, then it is not existing, or your claim to know all natural numbers is wrong. > > Not 'won't', 'can't'. > I try and the answer doesn't reach you. Simply give the number. > > Bob disappears from a superovine set == He disappears from the matrix. In your opinion this matrix is countable. Every exchange has an index. Regards, WM