Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:43:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <1214951717.762291306.657281.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:43:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5663112188f1f002c68c712720ef74d4"; logging-data="3454149"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/UkGKfQHvL5N/5hD199RHe" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:x5oiUSc81isYsG6TS5pHiEqAomg= Bytes: 2920 On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 12:00:23 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > What mattered in COBOL applications was no bugs. None. Not one. *Cough* Y2K *Cough* > The process of analysing a business and creating business oriented > applications that were 100% reliable lead to system analysts working out > how to do it and passing the specification down to programmers and > testing every single module. You *do* realize that the “waterfall” method (what you described above) was only put up as a strawman in a 1970s research paper to advocate for more versatile software development techniques? Nobody in the real world worked that way -- not successfully. Because it was a recipe for producing software that was out of date by the time it shipped. > This is big corporation stuff . You really think big corporations like, say, Google or Facebook, work that way? > IIRC Microfocus COBOL still makes a profit. Microfocus makes a profit, yes. But not from its COBOL compiler.