Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Why Tarski is wrong --- Montague, Davidson and Knowledge Ontology providing situational context. Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:10:06 +0000 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <7f68c434c15abfc9d4b645992344f0e851f031a3@i2pn2.org> <8ea8c8f1c661d0f2eef855af9b4c171d4f574826@i2pn2.org> <4965dcbb84fc29c9ba9d3cea39b59a8608bfeb66@i2pn2.org> <7db5f56a38a6b6eda2b63acc2568f5dedcc55efd@i2pn2.org> <2dd0fa97e2387ba4bca36b40ca16925933b35d9a@i2pn2.org> <0e92642bf4519e50ba48d51b52d17749c6e19664@i2pn2.org> <9495b0ea31b3c2559cf9515bfabe071d48cc9d39@i2pn2.org> <674e15b27aee55659e2925766cb6bb2b94fbb36d@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 21:10:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cc3172959e827479033dd9169def9845"; logging-data="2414883"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wDvAYziuimFhn0U05uS7xLLdUivIeCBOa7Nf0Hg4xoQ==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:oEbNlkNI5XxzPA5iGJogTJFELoU= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <674e15b27aee55659e2925766cb6bb2b94fbb36d@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2915 On 21/03/2025 11:48, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/21/25 5:33 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> >> But what if they were /both/ right? It was an obvious worry, >> and so arose the great question: is mathematics consistent? >> >> And Gödel proved not only that it isn't, but that it can't be. >> >> Fortunately, to date inconsistency has tended to surface only >> in corner cases like the Halting Problem, but Gödel's Hobgoblin >> hovers over mathematics to this day. >> > > Godel didn't prove that Mathematics wasn't consistent. He proved > that it couldn't be proved to BE consistant within itself. Yes, I rather overstated the case. Sorry about that. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within