Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: How To Teach Evolution To A Creationist Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:55:37 -0400 Organization: What are you looking for? Lines: 27 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <35eeujt3fpdurvl7ts0nk0ea0v66ouv865@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="29907"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:oUyGAZxQZcjueBwpB1fY7pnFJCY= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 7255B22978C; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:55:57 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 395DA229783 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:55:55 -0400 (EDT) id F17AC1C074E; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 05:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by newsfeed.bofh.team (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E28801C0114 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 05:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30075622C1 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 05:55:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/30075622C1; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id D1F46DC01CA; Sat, 29 Mar 2025 06:55:44 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 06:55:44 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18kW5ol+g225IoC/3Q6P4iq41mth2nctRs= DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3572 On Fri, 28 Mar 2025 23:15:34 -0400, Kestrel Clayton wrote: >On 28-Mar-25 20:02, jillery wrote: > >[ other stuff snipped ] > >> Mentioning skin color is a such a blatant no-no nowadays, that only >> the most clueless would evoke it. OTOH T.O. has seen more subtle >> versions of that line of reasoning, ex. gaslighting transgenders, >> atheists, and other POVs different from their own. > >Just FYI, most transgender people prefer to be described as, well,=20 >"transgender people." Or "transgender folks," if you like. The thinking=20 >is describing minoritized folks with just an adjective ("transgenders,"=20 >"Blacks," et cetera) can be a bit dehumanizing. > >Thanks! > >[ also snipping the rest of your post, with apologies ] Ok, no insult meant, none taken. OTOH gaslighting transgender people is dehumanizing. --=20 To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge