Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:51:48 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <2e44884357bdbf88e78daeda376eb8946f22cfb6@i2pn2.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:51:48 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2228780"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3190 Lines: 28 Am Sat, 29 Mar 2025 13:54:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 3/29/2025 4:19 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:38:22 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 3/28/2025 5:30 PM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 3/28/2025 6:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 3/28/2025 3:38 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>> On 3/28/2025 4:30 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> It does not compute (a sequence of steps of an algorithm that derive >>>>> an output on the basis of an input) jack shit it makes a guess. >> Even a constant function is a "computation", even if it doesn't >> actually do any work. > That is not transforming an input finite string into its corresponding > output finite string. Yes it is: transforming every input into the same output. >>>> Doesn't matter. If the requirement is to return 5 for strings that >>>> have a length of 5, it meets the requirement. >>> The actual requirement is to compute the mapping from a finite string >>> to its length using a sequence of algorithmic steps. >>> Likewise for halting. Compute the mapping from a finite string of >>> machine code to the behavior that this finite string specifies. >> Do you reckon the direct execution of a TM contradicts the >> specification? Does it? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.