Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:54:46 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <908c8431-3d44-496c-8f5c-e33cc9554956@att.net> <1ab7ff67-f1fb-4814-9d28-c883a4756097@att.net> <451804be-c49f-43ab-bca9-8a4af406d945@att.net> <11e634bd-c1d3-4d72-9e18-be6ca22b4742@att.net> <999fb07e-7bef-4423-afeb-a08922613c65@att.net> <0d24c3fd-cd63-4e21-9dd4-ab1360560b09@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2025 22:54:47 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="953a0e1026afcf805ccf940b08910087"; logging-data="252450"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Kf9B08vHJdkvdFNHKWoU2Ot3SFLjcoAM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5dJ5V5brSRVyjHmVynhX/jCO+dM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2511 On 08.02.2025 18:43, Jim Burns wrote: > Do you use ω-1 ? Not in this proof.: The axiom of induction says: If any property or predicate P satifies (P(1) /\ ∀k(P(k) ==> P(k+1)), then it describes all elements of an inductive = infinite set. That is satisfied by the set M of all FISONs which are useless in U(A(n)) = ℕ. Therefore U(A(n)) = ℕ ==> U{ } = { } = ℕ. This is false. By contraposition we get ~{ } = ℕ ==> ~ U(A(n)) = ℕ. Regards, WM