Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:34:20 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <1e5cb0d4-f447-4fa7-b1e9-8056b03d27a2@att.net> <8a4c44c4ba0d3260a90d463acfa814fbc83f557a@i2pn2.org> <853f9685ed5be27fedb6486ca2931ef189b920df@i2pn2.org> <5aefc0d0b454a230e721a8cdb8400cb25ea9a8c1@i2pn2.org> <340761ab1ceb68741d949331a0c64a3d6d5fa237@i2pn2.org> <5fccdbd91a997aadcfde3843cdc09e3fe7f515cf@i2pn2.org> <453a56f5a2e8545cd171150970864c62ecff7442@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:34:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="da03ab08f41375b6d1ffd7b3c68daff2"; logging-data="1837343"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zCpAPE375tioQnOD7+lQedQx2ZpyvPmc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:u2g1C9npVH7KU1A7UOfs2KfIGdg= In-Reply-To: <453a56f5a2e8545cd171150970864c62ecff7442@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2894 On 18.02.2025 16:28, joes wrote: > Am Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:18:52 +0100 schrieb WM: >> On 18.02.2025 11:09, joes wrote: >>> Am Tue, 18 Feb 2025 09:54:02 +0100 schrieb WM: >> >>>> Therefore I gave you an example that you should be able to understand: >>>> If every human has ended, then the human race has ended. >>>> Analogously: If every FISON has been removed without changing the >>>> union, >>>> then the set {F(1), F(2), F(3), ...} has been removed without changing >>>> the union. >>> But the union has changed from a nonempty set to an empty one. >> That's the proof. Nice that you now understand it. > Um, that proves that you cannot remove everything without changing > the union. What else could you have meant by that? We can remove every FISON without changing the *assumed* union ℕ. Regards, WM