Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: What do Palestinians see on TV? Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 12:50:33 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 189 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 18:50:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="451421d0efeb9edbdb8de5a913214746"; logging-data="2777664"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/G7ZrznN4hn8SsIw//sAl9hUsL2M1TLn4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mepA7Y1ipDtMQ738ib+YIaBqfWs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 10519 On 4/20/2025 8:12 PM, Rhino wrote: > On 2025-04-20 7:53 PM, moviePig wrote: >> On 4/20/2025 5:02 PM, Rhino wrote: >>> On 2025-04-20 4:33 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>> On 4/20/2025 3:38 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>> On 2025-04-20 3:13 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>> On 4/20/2025 2:22 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-04-20 2:06 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/20/2025 12:16 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-19 11:39 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 13, 2025 at 2:22:45 PM PDT, "Rhino" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-13 4:55 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>   On Mar 13, 2025 at 1:18:49 PM PDT, "moviePig" >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>   On 3/13/2025 3:09 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>   / >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     But I'll bet that any kid that's been through the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school system in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     last 20 years knows ALL 147 of the genders that have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been discovered so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     far and is convinced that Columbus and Churchill are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tied for the worst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     people ever with Donald Trump emerging as a major >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contender. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     And they're experts on smashing capitalism. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yeah, that's the ultimate goal of the schools now: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> raising >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     revolutionaries who will happily "burn it all down" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when their leaders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>     are ready to give the order. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   Other than podcasts and Usenet, where can I find tangible >>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>   this anarchistic indoctrination? >>>>>>>>>>>>   These were taken by a student at Alexander Hamilton High >>>>>>>>>>>> School in Los >>>>>>>>>>>>   Angeles. They were taken surreptitiously because the >>>>>>>>>>>> teacher prohibited cell >>>>>>>>>>>>   phone use in the classroom, not because it was distracting >>>>>>>>>>>> but because she >>>>>>>>>>>>   didn't want pictures of her classroom getting back to >>>>>>>>>>>> parents. >>>>>>>>>>>>   https://ibb.co/R44zv3Bq >>>>>>>>>>>>   As you can see, we have the BLM flag, the Palestine flag, >>>>>>>>>>>> and the flag of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>   Password People prominently displayed, while the American >>>>>>>>>>>> flag is dumped >>>>>>>>>>>>   haphazardly on some furniture in the background. >>>>>>>>>>>>   Other things this teacher hung on her wall include these >>>>>>>>>>>> lovely "Fuck the >>>>>>>>>>>>   Police" posters. >>>>>>>>>>>>   https://ibb.co/RkZsZc7h >>>>>>>>>>>>   This sort of thing is hardly an isolated incident. A >>>>>>>>>>>> couple months ago, I >>>>>>>>>>>>   stopped by my local high school to drop off a music >>>>>>>>>>>> project the band >>>>>>>>>>>> director >>>>>>>>>>>>   hired me to do and as I walked through the building it >>>>>>>>>>>> definitely struck me >>>>>>>>>>>>   that there were a lot more Soviet hammer-and-sickle flags >>>>>>>>>>>> on the walls of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>   classrooms than there were American flags. >>>>>>>>>>> I remember a teacher in Sacramento named Gabriel Gipe >>>>>>>>>>> eventually getting >>>>>>>>>>> sacked for similar displays in his classroom. He proudly told an >>>>>>>>>>> undercover journalist about his efforts to radicalize his >>>>>>>>>>> high school >>>>>>>>>>> students. He even wore a beard and cap like Lenin did in his >>>>>>>>>>> (Lenin's) >>>>>>>>>>> public appearances back in the day. Here him in his own >>>>>>>>>>> words, as >>>>>>>>>>> captured by the journalist: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.projectveritas.com/news/breaking-pro-antifa-high- >>>>>>>>>>> school- teacher-in-california-admits-communist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm in favor of forcing these little collectivist apparatchiks >>>>>>>>>> to wear body >>>>>>>>>> cams while on the clock, just like police do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They're working for us. We should know what goes on in those >>>>>>>>>> classrooms. What >>>>>>>>>> they're being taught, what 'decorations' adorn the classroom >>>>>>>>>> walls, what >>>>>>>>>> political opinions the teacher is bringing into the classroom, >>>>>>>>>> what things >>>>>>>>>> they're purposely trying to hide from the parents, how much of >>>>>>>>>> their sex lives >>>>>>>>>> they feel compelled to share with the students, etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If body cams are good enough for the cops, they should be good >>>>>>>>>> enough for >>>>>>>>>> teachers, also. Just like with the police, if they're doing >>>>>>>>>> their jobs >>>>>>>>>> properly, they have nothing to fear. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ever since I heard about Gipe and some of the other radicals we >>>>>>>>> hear about, it has seemed to me that the classroom itself - >>>>>>>>> EVERY classroom - should be visible and audible to AT LEAST the >>>>>>>>> parents of every child in the room and arguably all of the >>>>>>>>> people who fund that school. The audio and video should be >>>>>>>>> RECORDED so that parents and other stakeholders can review it >>>>>>>>> after the fact since most of them will be busy doing other >>>>>>>>> things during class. ALL teachers need to be accountable for >>>>>>>>> what they teach. The teaching materials - textbooks, videos, >>>>>>>>> handouts, reading lists - also need to be accessible to the >>>>>>>>> same people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then it will be possible to truly know what kind of propaganda >>>>>>>>> and nonsense the teachers are indoctrinated the students with. >>>>>>>>> As a side benefit, it will be a lot easier to determine which >>>>>>>>> students are discipline problems so that they can be handled >>>>>>>>> appropriately. Teachers have far too much trust in the current >>>>>>>>> system: everyone seems to give them the benefit of the doubt, >>>>>>>>> no matter what, particularly their unions, administrators, >>>>>>>>> fellow teachers and school boards. I think students are often >>>>>>>>> persuaded to lie to others, including their parents, about what >>>>>>>>> happens in the classroom to cover up the teachers' >>>>>>>>> indoctrination efforts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Once we see and hear exactly what happens in the classrooms, >>>>>>>>> we'll be better able to understand what reforms are necessary >>>>>>>>> to end the rot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The purpose of public education isn't tailored indoctrination, >>>>>>>> but the promulgation of a level of knowledge basic to a society. >>>>>>>> In theory -- and usually in practice -- teachers do that better >>>>>>>> than parents. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You forgot to put that "in theory" at the start of your FIRST >>>>>>> sentence too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think there's been ample evidence now to the effect that >>>>>>> teachers ARE indoctrinating kids into nonsense like the umpteen- >>>>>>> gender universe, the nobility of Hamas, the idea that they can >>>>>>> live - and be taught - as animals, ad nauseum, ad infinitum. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The time has come that teachers are MONITORED with video and >>>>>>> audio. Those who are doing their jobs properly have nothing to >>>>>>> fear. Those that are raising radical ideologues should lose their >>>>>>> jobs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me guess:  You'd happily replace a human teacher with ChatGPT... >>>>>> >>>>> Why on earth would I want to do that? >>>> >>>> Because it's the best chance of a curriculum free of pesky "flaws". >>> >>> I have no idea what you're babbling about. ChatGPT is most certainly >>> NOT free of error: I've seen that with my own two eyes during >>> demonstrations. At the very least, some of its trainers are feeding >>> it nonsense, much like the nonsense some of our school teachers are >>> feeding their students. >>>> >>>>    > And while you're figuring that out, tell me one good reason why >>>> teachers >>>>> SHOULDN'T be monitored by audio and video? >>>> >>>> Have you ever attempted a difficult task before a thousand inspectors? >>>> >>> >>> Actors do it all of the time in front of MILLIONS of inspectors (aka ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========