Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The Joy of *small* business Date: 22 Dec 2024 21:12:22 GMT Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <1248675b-e38a-04a7-93b3-6fa527725858@example.net> <72616cd8-3cd6-8e7a-2fe0-3078e6a2e899@example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 3BwttONXVEs3LakEHkqTpwCGcD3SEFd822O6LzU3VNspOYLgkB Cancel-Lock: sha1:dDTbS7jbu+jfpgvJeScIUZn82TQ= sha256:9t5HwKGPBczlPEP/fi12J+AlEJZHvJnLFx4/Ft1X9vk= User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Bytes: 3982 On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:24:53 +0100, D wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote: > >> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:12:43 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> Those poor people ... caught between an ever-growing mountain of >>> facts/evidence and equally-persuasive *belief* (which requires no >>> facts). They TRY to find ways to splice it all together. It doesn't >>> work well ... >> >> A friend was a Young Earther despite being a proficient programmer. >> Given the premise God can do anything it's no problem for him to whip >> up the Grand Canyon with all its geological layers in his spare time. >> He was also well rehearsed in the creationist arguments against >> evolution. > > Did you ever get anywhere with him in arguments, or was every argument > closed down by the "God"-argument? There is no winning that argument so I let it slide. I would push his buttons by taking the Catholic side in arguments about other points. He was entirely dependent of his interpretation of the bible. I would point out the Catholics determined the canon. There have been a few Protestant tweaks. Luther left out Thomas on his first go-around since the parts about faith without works being empty didn't fit with sola fides. Maccabees winds up in 'apocrypha' since it mentions prayers for the dead as an intercession. Then there is the decalogue parsing to come down heavy on those statues. I doubt many Catholics believe in the Young Earth but that's one of the areas that is dealers choice as far as the catechism goes, along with evolution. He died last year and I sort of miss the friendly discussions. As a part of hearing what you want to hear a group from his church sand Cohen's 'Hallelujah' at the service. There certainly is biblical imagery but there is also the verse "Maybe there's a God above But all I've ever learned from love Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew ya And it's not a cry that you hear at night It's not somebody who's seen the light It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah" Then there are the politicians who play Springsteen's 'Born in the USA' at there rallies. Or Trump's fondness for 'YMCA'. That song and the Village People were as queer as it gets but I don't think he gets the context.