Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Kicking the straw-man deception out on its ass Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 15:49:38 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 22:49:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1890a324b06dc16a921f95b9719194f"; logging-data="999653"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19fUv6iSTsXQX7Ddc80k2eI" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:73UIucNQZw88N4PpKF2oxvYzxRg= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250302-6, 3/2/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 2961 On 3/2/2025 3:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/2/25 4:21 PM, olcott wrote: >> int DD() >> { >>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>    if (Halt_Status) >>      HERE: goto HERE; >>    return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> _DD() >> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping >> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping >> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local >> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04 >> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax >> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f >> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d >> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04] >> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp >> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp >> [00002155] c3         ret >> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >> >> DD emulated by HHH according to the behavior that DD >> specifies cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction >> and terminate normally. > > WHich only shows that HHH can not correctly emulate its input and give > an answer. > The fact that HHH does correctly determine that DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally proves that your claim is counter factual. You continue to stupidly insist that HHH cannot possibly correctly determine the termination status of DD in a finite number of emulated steps. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer