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From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: Pip installs to unexpected place
Date: 15 Apr 2025 21:38:29 GMT
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:12:19 -0400, Thomas Passin wrote:

> On Linux, at least, it's standard for pip to install into the user's
> site-packages location if it's not invoked with admin privileges - even
> without --user. Pip will emit a message saying so. Well, that used to be
> true but nowadays Pip wants you to use the --break-system-packages flag
> if you want to insist on installing into the system's Python install,
> even if it's going to go into --user. I'm not sure if the restriction
> will be in place given that the OP built his own Python version.

Is that pip or a distro's version of pip? On Fedora I get the message 
about defaulting to user. On Ubuntu I get a message to use a venv or if I 
really want a global install to use something like 'pip install python3-
black'. Ubuntu's is pip 24.2, Fedor's is 24.3.1 but neither of them show 
'--break-system-packages' in --help.