Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Covid's True Origins Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 15:06:19 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <8bp50k9l97d32cotcalb3n2hob51044fes@4ax.com> <6803c489$6$2787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <95i70k5mcgcs15fe8c5cds703mrchbujc5@4ax.com> <68057a5c$0$4264$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4064d19f95971db645217e587512dfa1"; logging-data="4027563"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX185DVfWj7xlVMuf634mCNRWWZnEE/qPCgA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bDAdf8aXB4fCpm7B8MDGjehL1Uk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250421-6, 22/4/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 5115 On 22/04/2025 1:26 am, john larkin wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:19:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom > wrote: > >> On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 18:51:12 -0400, bitrex wrote: >> >>> On 4/19/2025 12:08 PM, john larkin wrote: >>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 11:44:53 -0400, bitrex wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/18/2025 7:52 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>>>> This report would never have seen the light of day if Joe Biden still >>>>>> occupied the Big Chair.... >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lab-leak-white-house-unveils-massive-report-true-origins-covid-19 >>>>> >>>>> LOL imagine how much it sucks to be whomever has to write 557 pages of >>>>> nonsense for the benefit of kooks who won't read it, anyway. >>>>> >>>>> "ZeroHedge launched our premium service - and more recently, the ZH >>>>> Store, where loyal readers routinely cause us to sell out of hats, >>>>> shirts, knives, and the unsurprisingly popular ZeroHedge multitool" >>>>> >>>>> Sold to citizens who have a good dose of >>>>> main-character-in-their-own-movie syndrome. >>>>> >>>>> "Moychendizing. Where the real money from the movie is made!" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Do you use hats, shirts, knives, or tools? Probably not. >>>> >>>> Do you think the covid epidemic just coincidentally started within >>>> walking distance of the Wuhan bat virus research lab? Probably so. >>> >>> So I'm supposed to believe the proximal cause was a lab leak not only of >>> a known-dangerous virus, but very likely a _genetically engineered_ and >>> weaponized virus designed by an antagonistic foreign power... >> >> If you had an ounce of sense, that's what you would accept. >> >>> ...and simultaneously the correct response for American leadership was >>> to do _nothing_? Let that plausible rogue bio-weapon "rip" through >>> society, don't have lock downs or implement any fashion of civil >>> defense, and just ensure the restaurants stay open at all costs? >> >> 'Let it rip' was the correct approach. The UK for one is still paying >> the price for their government's paternalistic approach to the >> outbreak. Paying people to do nothing for months on end! Great idea >> that was. > > The masking thing was silly. As were shutdowns. It wasn't. In Australia, where it was taken seriously, it entirely killed off seasonal influenza. > Vaccines might have made sense for older people, but seem to have been > net harmful to younger folks. Vaccines made the Covid-19 virus less able to spread. They didn't stop infection - though they made it less likely - and when vaccinated people were infected they didn't stay infected for a long and were thus less likely to infect other people. If you want to stop an epidemic you need to vaccinate everybody you can to cut down the number of new infection produced by any single infected patient. Leaving out the younger and more numerous members of the target population probably doesn't do them any good at all - any harmful effects from the vaccine are swamped by the harmful effects of getting infected - and is bad for the older and more vulnerable members of the population. Australia got to 95% coverage, where America never got above 83%. Australian Covid-19 deaths ended up at 937 per million, the US at 3642 per million. England and France had a harder job - higher population density than Australia or the US - but still did better than the US at about 2500 deaths per million. > A lot of money was made on the vaccines. As it should have been. They cost money to make and develop, and saved a lot of lives. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney