Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Awfully quiet in here... Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 08:45:24 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <0c782542-ab3a-5558-689f-79d4641cb399@example.net> <9342ee27-06ec-20c0-521e-bf039ac7c85d@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 17:45:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9115c6e7e47cde534f45be154b2d4422"; logging-data="134638"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+9x00/6ajuTrtBbJG6G9M8k7vJ/vwSzcc=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:YTy2J6COT22wQsNnvgA88dl6rKU= Bytes: 2802 On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 22:21:55 +0200, D wrote: > > >On Sun, 6 Apr 2025, Scott Dorsey wrote: > >> D wrote: >>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2025, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, Haiti is a post-capitalist, post-fascist nation. A small = number of >>> >>> Actually, that's incorrect. Haiti is a prime example of what happens = when >>> you go from proto-socialism, and the leaders then decide to screw the >>> people. >> >> Explain, please. The government of the Revolution of 1946 did have >> plenty of socialists in the coalition, but none of them survived when >> Magloire took over. And Magloire wasn't the problem, but he didn't >> last long. > >There you go. I think you just explained it yourself. If you dig deep=20 >enough in crisis countries surely you will find a socialist or two. > >> Leaders screwing the people is a pretty common problem, and it's why >> representative democracy is such a good thing. It's not sufficient to >> prevent that, but it's necessary. > >Leaders screwing the people is exactly what socialism and = authoritarianism=20 >is about. The only antidote to that is capitalism and the abolishing of=20 >the public sector. > >If not, the public sector grows like a cancer, and when it does, the=20 >politicians soon become dictators and take over. Socialism turning the=20 >people into slaves like it has always done. > >This is a scientific fact. =46or some unknown meaning of "scientific fact", no doubt. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"