Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: OT: Ukraine WH-meeting news coverage Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 23:51:18 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 00:51:18 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4e0ebb72c01fdd58afd188f28b55cd85"; logging-data="1066706"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1//KagrOklFczZv+ZJdLwvF" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:1EfUoiyOhVF49I7kdQ/aTIYokIw= Bytes: 4586 On Mar 2, 2025 at 3:39:20 PM PST, "suzeeq" wrote: > On 3/2/2025 3:06 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> super70s wrote: >>> On 2025-03-02 15:59:32 +0000, suzeeq said: >>> >>>> On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting >>>>>>>> as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC.  Fox, meanwhile, places it >>>>>>>> fourth, with the headline: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>     QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED >>>>>>>> TRUMP EXCHANGE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take >>>>>>> exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it? >>>>>>> You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both >>>>>>> contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett >>>>>>> Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at >>>>>>> how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing >>>>>>> that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is >>>>>>> going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in >>>>>>> case.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes] >>>>>> >>>>>> I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a >>>>>> relatively normal interview. That exception was that Baier opened with >>>>>> -- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*. >>>>>> I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above) >>>>>> leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> He does owe Trump an apology. He was rude, ungracious, and >>>>> unthankful. It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's >>>>> giving you a ton of money. >>>>> >>>> Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in >>>> and double down on it. They both provoked Zelienskyy, and you expect >>>> him to be thankful for that? >>> >>> Vance thinks he's the heir to the MAGA throne. He's running for >>> president and assumes all these draconian Trump policies are going to >>> be popular after they've had four years to ripen on the vine, I >>> wouldn't bet on it. He gave the same kind of blustery "campaign speech" >>> in Germany last week. >> >> No different than DeSantis running for the nomination in 2024. We have >> learned that a Republican who isn't Trump will not be taken seriously by >> Republican primary voters by running as an imitation Trump. >> >> The only one Vance convinced was Trump himself, since he turned 180 >> degrees from condemning Trump to praising Trump. >> >> There is no Republican Party without Trump. Trump has no annointed >> successor. I guess they'll all have to run... as themselves... in the >> 2028 presidential primary season. >> > Let's hope so. +1