Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft warns of blue screen crashes caused by April updates Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:00:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 07:00:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57426970ab12ba5154d5839efd36de7a"; logging-data="1499918"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ruV6C8J552S4zqTA/pCxj" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qq3ZGdUsrDxDDN8mbZWt1/jOIUs= Bytes: 3827 On 2025-04-19, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 4/18/25 16:48, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-18, Borax Man wrote: >>> On 2025-04-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:14:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>> >>>>> The desktops being roughly similar is only a necessity for users who >>>>> were already old when they learned MacOS or Windows and did so >>>>> stubbornly. Considering how difficult it was for them to adopt that >>>>> much, you wouldn't want to put an entirely different operating system in >>>>> front of them. For anyone else, a switch from Windows to Gnome or >>>>> Cinnamon shouldn't be such a chore. >>>> >>>> On Linux, “different GUIs” is not the same as “different operating >>>> systems”. Linux offers more variety of GUIs than all the rest of the >>>> computing world put together. >>> >>> Wont the obsolence of X11 put and end to that? Many Desktop >>> Environments and Window Managers won't work at all on Wayland, from what >>> I understand. >> >> Hopefully X11 will be around for a couple more decades. It's getting close >> to two decades since Wayland was first announced and it still doesn't seem >> completely ready to me. > > It's not ready in Linux Mint, but that's because Cinnamon hasn't been > rewritten to work with it yet. If you use KDE or Gnome through Fedora or > Ubuntu, Wayland is quite excellent. You might not notice a difference if > your use is basic, but if you enjoy touchpad gestures, decent external > monitor support and things like the night light, it's definitely better > than X11. Wayland is usable, if you don't mind adjusting to it, but it's not really "ready." I've tried Wayland in Ubuntu. On my equipment it is not better. I didn't know what artifacts were until I streamed video in Ubuntu under Wayland. As for touchpad gestures... I've already remarked on that. I don't need them. As for external monitors, I haven't had any problem using them with X11 under Linux Mint (on the rare occasions when I've used external monitors). I've never used anything like Night Light, but I think I have it built into my monitor and I'm guessing I could download something, if I wanted it. Out of curiosity, does Alt+Shift+U allow you to input Unicode characters? This is something I use fairly often. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien