Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: rec tech mower Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 07:51:21 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 14:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d6180c1606b0a8801ca5bc46b75f0fd5"; logging-data="565816"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19s7AnJnWZEQVkzc46+6Lku" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:i1h8E8DTpnd+naGitV/rqxlHAmA= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3253 On 4/12/2025 1:41 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 13:05:24 +0700, John B. > wrote: > > (chomp) >> As an aside, most of the problems with small engines being stored for >> long periods of time can be caused by the fact that much "Gas Station" >> gas contains Ethanol. It's worth it to search for "pure gasoline" gas. >> https://www.buyrealgas.com/states.html >> https://www.pure-gas.org/ > > True. Here's a video that explains what's happening: > > "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines" > > > I wasted some time and effort trying to remove the ethanol from retail > gasoline. It can be done, but the results are not very good. The > problem is that ethanol is an octane booster. Take away the ethanol > and the octane rating of the gas goes down. If I start with regular, > the octane rating ends up so low that the engine might knock. > Actually, modern engines change the timing advance so that the engine > just barely knocks. It doesn't ping and sorta runs, but not very > well. > >> I believe that some airfields that cater to old fashioned propeller >> airplanes may also stock it. > > > Ethanol free gas in a car probably won't hurt the car engine. However, > there is no authoritative consensus as to whether it's a good or bad > idea. Try sampling some articles on the topic: > > I have little experience and no opinion. > +1 Since none of my autos has computer controls, I pay attention to fuels* and for one engine in particular only no-ethanol premium. *My engine guru says most modern autos can digest a range of fuels, as the computer adjusts spark timing and injection to whatever it is, but small engines don't have those. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971