Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 16:31:08 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <1jn00kl03kddk8rkhr3bnpabv7u5i9sout@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 22:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="521db7e34b604c3960443b213f25774a"; logging-data="3983965"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+nrZYLLnGrHiBa+5HXN8aFIDhpxDvngn0=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:SKzsnYnJ72oO6C0LN9a/xQ8XaQU= Bytes: 2762 On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:53:19 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: >On 4/18/2025 9:15 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 4/17/2025 9:23 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 4/17/2025 10:08 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> On 4/17/2025 9:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh, and "speech" in the form of millionaire or corporate campaign >>>>> contributions is an abomination. >>>> >>>> How so? >>>> If I have an individual right to free speech (and I absolutely do), >>>> then why may my right be curtailed when I join with others of like mind? >>>> >>>> It's a long standing feature of common law (well before USA) that >>>> corporations are fictitious persons, entitled to rights of their >>>> composite individuals when they act as one. >>> >>> Common law or not, I think the idea of a corporation being a "person" >>> is nuts. But even if one accepts their "personhood," they should be >>> limited to the amount of speech that _one_ person can produce. >>> >>> And "speech" measured in dollars is an abomination. >>> >>> >> >> Apply the same logic to  unions, fraternal organizations and political >> parties and then think it over. > >I'd be willing to apply it to those. Free speech scares some people, and those types are not just afraid to see and here it themselves they want to keep everybody else from it too. -- C'est bon Soloman