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From: Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>
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Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation?
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:17:23 -0000 (UTC)
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Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
> On 12/2/24 15:00, john larkin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>>>> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was
>>>>>>>>> harmonised many years ago at one thousand million so there's no
>>>>>>>>> confusion.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Can you give a reference for that?ÿ I haven't found one.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/
>>>>>>> SN04440.pdf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation.ÿ The English Billion still
>>>>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American
>>>>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime Minister.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still
>>>>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million
>>>>> million. So one has to be careful when translating.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the
>>>> metric prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make
>>>> politicians and finance accept that though...
>>> 
>>> Right!
>>> 
>>> Or notations like 5*10^9  or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still
>>> do? 5E9 is very simple)
>> 
>> 10^9 = 1e10 in some places.
>> 
> 
> What??? Where?
> 
> Jeroen Belleman
> 

Occasionally when I want 10 to the nine, I type 10E9. 

Cheers 

Phil Hobbs 

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