Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Dead Vermont cyclist Date: 15 Mar 2025 10:03:53 GMT Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <74b6tjhm5rlu81m4ie4t7nara8bc9u9v7f@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net QX88d9I7lS9rtvBsfR9v6Ascr8nVGJi/KVw2y16DEVl4vn769E Cancel-Lock: sha1:y04Eq7Pdd0biGagaDE2+YwfIUjQ= sha1:Wmm9oUgfNvEflFap1CzjPdXgfYI= sha256:g7JhD1rRMXizOLbkJDmdHjjsVne4udr7cjQMTTtcdJ8= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 3039 Catrike Ryder wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:47:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski > wrote: > >> On 3/14/2025 4:37 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:10:40 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/14/2025 1:25 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, I'm not sympathetic. What rule could be more fundamental than >>>>>> "Don't hit someone walking (or bicycling) with your car"? >>>>>> >>>>>> And if killing someone with your car isn't sufficient for forbidding >>>>>> future driving, what would be? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the permission to drive really more important than a person's life? >>>>> >>>>> Isn't there a law against riding your bicycle in the path of a moving >>>>> car? >>>> >>>> What nonsense! >>> >>> Oh well, go ahead and do it.... >> >> I do it all the time. I did it many times on today's ride, as usual. I'm >> not nearly as fearful or as ignorant of the law as you are. >> >> Man up, if you can. > > I'm pretty sure that if I ride into the path of fast moving vehicles > and get hit, it'd be my own fault. > > -- > C'est bon > Soloman > There is world of difference between riding on a road, as one should be able to so, and other users of the road as every have to adjust to others using the road, back in wales I can encounter all manner of vehicles and animals! Even in london and areas around get pedestrians/scooters/bikes/horses/motorbikes/milk floats/vans/buses/lorries. All of which will use the roads in different ways, unless it’s a motorway where all traffic is broadly traveling same speeds. Roger Merriman