Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs Date: 27 Apr 2025 16:16:45 GMT Lines: 88 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net TOSk0lZNFWphErK1JsTrTA3IJ6Rv+1aCs4PrMairF8X3dXHrqg Cancel-Lock: sha1:O0mNCs2Y20SB8gNBwW+2RBMOFtY= sha1:pq0KAmSH+s5hCsjH3x+yntgbbqQ= sha256:2JGQihwrQ7z0r/vebcCyr17g+VFiEtRnmj/z0nxe3B8= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 4372 AMuzi wrote: > On 4/26/2025 4:11 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >> AMuzi wrote: >>> On 4/26/2025 3:06 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 4/26/2025 12:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>> On 26 Apr 2025 09:14:12 GMT, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the tariffs are effecting >>>>>>> US companies certainly small ones, as ever it’s a moving target so may well >>>>>>> change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Roger Merriman >>>>>> >>>>>> Many countries have tariffs on products from the USA. I see no reason >>>>>> why the USA shouldn't have tariffs on their products. Maybe it will >>>>>> bring manufacturing back, maybe not. The USA used to be a >>>>>> manufacturing powerhouse and the bureaucratic jackasses let it slip >>>>>> away. I don't know if Trump's plans can save the country, but it was >>>>>> definatly going to hell with the same old, same old plans. At least >>>>>> he's trying something new. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> C'est bon >>>>>> Soloman >>>>> >>>>> I am in complete agreement on the importance and benefit of >>>>> removing disparate tariffs. >>>>> >>>>> I can't agree that it will make a significant difference in >>>>> industrial production. With our Byzantine regulations, bans, >>>>> permits, reviews and so on, plus unions, and a combination >>>>> of apathy and lack of skills in younger generations ('don't >>>>> know. don't care') there's no obvious path to refining our >>>>> huge stores of rare earths, making steel from our excellent >>>>> iron ore and coking coal, building ships once more or a >>>>> gazillion other lost industrial projects. >>>> >>>> Europe seems to have kept a bit more of its industrial base, and plenty of >>>> regulations and unions, French in particular do like a good strike! >>>> >>>> Europe and Us have lost a most of their industrial capacity, for largely >>>> cost reasons, though some industries remain such as military. >>>>> >>>>> Reciprocal tariffs are good, and moral, but the effect will >>>>> be about the same as increasing the oceans' volume by >>>>> pissing in them. >>>>> >>>> This isn’t reciprocal but a trade war with China, which is a PR wonder for >>>> the Chinese government as they can blame you now, ie the US for any >>>> problems. >>>> >>>> Roger Merriman >>>> >>> >>> There are many factors, domestic and foreign. The results >>> have become critical: >>> >>> https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-steel-decades-of-decline/ >>> >> >> Uk privatised services companies be that steel or otherwise are deeply >> unpopular and the general desire for nationalisation is there. >> >> Governments have let the free markets be rather too free for various >> reasons some ideological some political short term gains. >> >> But it’s deeply unpopular now, last government essentially asset stripped >> the country! >> >> Roger Merriman >> >> >> > > A state owned/managed steel maker? Check the history of that. > In name only was bought out few years back and is privately and non uk owned i forget who but clearly shouldn’t have been left to the only one, for all sorts of good national interests. Roger Merriman