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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Shadow Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2025 19:43:38 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Shadow Lines: 55 Message-ID: <7bct0k1oe58dpa1gu0v7pa36r013bjbn1s@4ax.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 00:43:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ead22a053d35c8179e0c88b388a770e6"; logging-data="1909995"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/0HDS2ThHXihFsddgBnz+M8pGriOOvkNg=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:j5VTx4RAMiscdozQtNLzB+mC3UA= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Bytes: 3599 On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 16:39:32 -0400, zen cycle wrote: >On 4/27/2025 4:16 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 4/27/2025 2:39 PM, Shadow wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 14:06:50 -0500, AMuzi wrote: >>>> Goes both ways. >>>> >>>> Brasil is a highly efficient producer of sugar, which is >>>> virtually impossible to import in to USA.  For the past 120 >>>> years across every administration. >>> >>>     Brazil uses slave labour. Hard to compete with that >>> price-wise. The sugar cane industry has become an oligopoly. The "big >>> corps" rent land from farmers, sometimes refuse to pay what they >>> promised and when they give the land back nothing will grow on it. >>> Sugar cane depletes the land, rather like soy. In three years it's >>> sand. >>> >>>     There's a reason why the Chinese government  will not allow >>> planting soy in most of China..... they plan thinking decades in the >>> future. >>> >>>      I heard that Australia's fully-automated sugar-cane farms are >>> far more efficient than Brazil's labour-heavy methods. Machines don't >>> have to feed their children or invest in bettering their education. >>> They're cheaper than slaves.... >>>     []'s >> >> WTF?  And neither Dilma nor Lula nor anyone else interfered with or even >> addressed slavery as a domestic political issue?? >> > >just guessing, but I think "slave labor" is a bit of hyperbole. Perhaps >he meant "slave wages"? LOL, Brazil did away with slavery because slaves became too expensive. If one got ill, you would have to care for him or lose your property. With slavery gone, slaves became much cheaper. And you only had to hire them a few months a year. These people mentioned in the "slave" article are carted off to farms with the promise of "good salaries". The owners charge more for lunch than they pay in salaries, so the worker cannot resign. You can't resign if you are in debt. Those that are considered to be a problem are either killed or work in chains so they don't run away. Most of these farms are hundreds of kilometers from any big town. Dunno, what do you call slave labour? Does the worker have to be black to qualify? []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 Google Fuchsia - 2021