Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 16:36:24 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 164 Message-ID: <6o49tjhjtf2qoi4aoa90sdfurr9t1s6cfs@4ax.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:36:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5ae60d0ea76f93d75d3e0b5d871b741f"; logging-data="2149372"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/XdrGWDGwPpFJYqHysM0v3QKC13KSOUmY=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ImKDj8vGw2HKWuXaTnGyoPrtgxs= Bytes: 7328 On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 16:33:22 -0400, Catrike Ryder wrote: >On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 12:00:03 -0500, AMuzi wrote: > >>On 3/14/2025 9:33 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:30:31 -0500, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/12/2025 7:20 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>>> On 3/12/2025 5:32 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:19:11 -0400, zen cycle >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:45 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:20:18 -0400, Zen Cycle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish >>>>>>>>>>> for firearms, and >>>>>>>>>>> the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for >>>>>>>>>>> paranoia so >>>>>>>>>>> severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to >>>>>>>>>>> do ordinary >>>>>>>>>>> things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill >>>>>>>>>>> a gas tank, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. >>>>>>>>>>> Not this one. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. >>>>>>>>>>> One classmate of >>>>>>>>>>> mine in an adult education class brought his handgun >>>>>>>>>>> to a class picnic >>>>>>>>>>> in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy >>>>>>>>>>> paranoia. Another guy, >>>>>>>>>>> less admirable in general, bragged to me about >>>>>>>>>>> carrying his handgun >>>>>>>>>>> into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute >>>>>>>>>>> stupidity, and crazy >>>>>>>>>>> paranoia. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that >>>>>>>>>>> he used a special >>>>>>>>>>> stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe his physical >>>>>>>>>>> shortcomings triggered feelings of great >>>>>>>>>>> vulnerability, as with Mr. >>>>>>>>>>> Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off >>>>>>>>>>> the charts crazy - >>>>>>>>>>> as is Mr. Tricycle's. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'. >>>>>>>>>> Same argument. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain >>>>>>>>>> that this >>>>>>>>>> shopping  mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced >>>>>>>>>> a deranged madman >>>>>>>>>> shooting into a crown before, and most probably never >>>>>>>>>> will again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, on one fine July day, it happened. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed- >>>>>>>>>> citizen-landed-8- >>>>>>>>>> of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass-shooting-in-15- >>>>>>>>>> seconds/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying >>>>>>>>>> only days after the >>>>>>>>>> Indiana statute had changed to allow carry. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without >>>>>>>>>> preparation is >>>>>>>>>> excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some >>>>>>>>>> diligence and range >>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for >>>>>>>>> personal protection and >>>>>>>>> never take the time and diligence. If there was a law >>>>>>>>> requiring range >>>>>>>>> time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more >>>>>>>>> confident in the >>>>>>>>> general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this >>>>>>>>> are far more >>>>>>>>> prevalent: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots- >>>>>>>>> and-kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ah But, as your reference states the boyfriend committed >>>>>>>> an illegal >>>>>>>> act, and was charged, The Florida guy is talking about a >>>>>>>> legal act. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A bit of a difference, wouldn't one think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> not much. The gun fetishists (lobby) thinks any >>>>>>> restrictions on gun >>>>>>> ownership are unconstitutional. In their (small) minds, >>>>>>> the boyfriend >>>>>>> did nothing wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Re restrictions on gun ownership??? >>>>>> >>>>>> The first piece of national gun control legislation was >>>>>> passed on June >>>>>> 26, 1934. The National Firearms Act (NFA) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which is not germane to the point that the gun fetishists >>>>> (lobby) think any restrictions on gun ownership are >>>>> unconstitutional. >>>>> >>>> >>>> With good reason. >>>> >>>> Because the actual written text doesn't comport with the >>>> many and various National Firearms Acts. >>> >>> In my opinion, full automatic weapons should be illegal or heavily >>> controlled as they currently are, but the problem is that US >>> Constitution says otherwise. There's also a problem with trying to >>> modify the 2nd Amendment in that there's never going to be an >>> agreement on how to modify it. >>> >>> I guess we'll just have to live with unconstitutional laws. >>> >>> -- >>> C'est bon >>> Soloman >> >>Yes, the inherent conflict is and will remain unresolved. As >>in so many Constitutional questions (I'm thinking of the >>utter abuse of the Commerce Clause after FDR). >> >>Meanwhile, theory and actual enforcement do vary: >> >>https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/man-on-pretrial-release-for-machine-gun-case-shot-his-girlfriend-during-an-argument-over-weed-prosecutors.html > >+1 > > >Reality runs up your spine >andthe peices finally fit >- Sir Elton Good grief... spell check much? Reality runs up your spine andthe peices finally fit - Sir Elton