Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zionazi Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings Subject: Re: jewish emancipation also means emancipation from ancient rituals Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:12:34 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: References: <41eade3ca835ece1ebf0adc0222bcbaa@www.novabbs.com> <99b1ea74bb01b77ffa6a9d2024267dd3@www.novabbs.com> <4jKdnWjKNo0QCsf6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@supernews.com> <918eef0ebd88aea9cfc298526193fdf8@www.novabbs.com> <6fe60eb77a8aea93c725c36a646c93e2@www.novabbs.com> <3b32ca2edd6405e191f026401e438ff2@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2633490"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="eF/RVKLh6aEp9s+BK8BYt5fEoUMxZQLVFJ5zi19LlgQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$XwY0jRxjQB.en9gOOF8Sn.y2Gf2LSO9.UW3iAjGvvSZA8OoJEHTje X-Rslight-Posting-User: b8ea6db213d7f55d7e0ffe462de55ace7b9a5d91 Bytes: 5125 Lines: 72 For further clarification: - Marx did not argue against a personal belief in god, he criticised organized religions — but he also understood that people needed Religion in this world. „Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.“ Marx wouldnt have Forced people to stop believing in Religions! - as opposed to Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism and some other religions, there is in fact nothing Redeemable about Islam. Islam is inherently antisemitic, just as nazi-ideology is inherently antisemitic. Sure there are Muslims - such as Muslims in the IDF - who Are no antisemites, but they also arent Muslims ;) Just as a Nazi who liked Jews and called himself a liberal Nazi, wouldnt be a nazi. The quran in some ways is Similar to the protocols of the Elders of Zion: blaming Jews for corruption for example. The quran argues that Jews habe corrupted god‘s words… we can all see where This is going Right? So Muhammad was basically sent to correct — to correct what the Jews did wrong. This is the islamic Perspective. - Marx was also Not a barbarian like Lenin. Marx distanced himself from Marxists: „Guesde was the inspiration for a famous quotation by Karl Marx. Shortly before Marx died in 1883, he wrote a letter to Guesde and Paul Lafargue, both of whom already claimed to represent "Marxist" principles. Marx accused them of "revolutionary phrase-mongering".[2] This exchange is the source of Marx's remark, reported by Friedrich Engels: "ce qu'il y a de certain c'est que moi, je ne suis pas marxiste" ("what is certain is that [if they are Marxists], [then] I myself am not a Marxist").“ - saying Jews imagined a god who hates them instead of imagining a god who loves them — was ofc a Bit exaggerated. But there is also some truth in it. - Judaism - the 10 commandments - served in some ways as the foundation of Western morality. It was progression at that time (but also myth) — I value the progressive aspects of Judaism. Christianity in some ways Improved Judaism; it was even more progressive. Islam otoh was historically speaking pure Regression. - many orthodox Jews Quote Marx‘ Jewish Question to make him seem like an antisemite, while in fact he was defending the Jews and their right to practice their Religion against Bauer. When Marx in this piece Talks about how Jews were all about Money or sth, he Merely describes a historical Reality at that time. - it would be very beneficial for jews specifically, but actually for humanity generally, to get a deeper understanding of Marx. It is necessary for understanding antisemitism! Frank - Long before 10/7 happened - I was calling out Herm, Raydolf, Mr Andy Semite etc. As antisemites. While you were cozy and friendly with them… and when Herm once Whined about being called an antisemite by me, and attacking you for being In a group with me — you distanced yourself from me. Again: all the while being friendly with them rabid dogs in this ng. You Are in no Position to be speaking about Jewish Pride. A proud Jew would Not Associate with These rabid dogs for years after all they‘ve said. If they Repent and Show insight into their antisemitic behaviour, they Shall be forgiven and treated differently. - religions are different from each other, just as political Ideologies are different from each other. Some ideologies are in fact so inhumane, anti-human to be exact, that you have to ban them: Nazi-Ideology for example, but also Islam.