Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Thoughts on industrial design Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 17:37:14 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 75 Message-ID: <7o551k9unep0fg3bgcv24u79e3g51tr7le@4ax.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 23:37:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="893f0cb39dbed4866cfcf056e89ff020"; logging-data="1208175"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19TJnI0YRDhtRLRKGgSmKr5TFcK0Yq+C74=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jJfwSzMsbbgUzSs8GPw0MUxvUNk= Bytes: 4779 On 30 Apr 2025 21:08:03 GMT, Roger Merriman wrote: >Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/30/2025 3:10 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >>> Am Tue, 29 Apr 2025 16:27:05 -0400 schrieb Frank Krygowski >>> : >>>> I've >>>> gotten slower as I've aged, and I think I may be the oldest among those >>>> I normally ride with; but I'm among the faster members of the usual >>>> group. Maybe the key is choosing the proper group to ride with! >>> >>> I don't do group riding, never did. Most people in Germany don't. The >>> bicycle is mostly a means of transport, for us. >> >> I just finished another club ride, with a snack afterward. Definitely a >> social situation, with lots of conversation. A beautiful day, nice roads >> in rural territory, very pleasant. I think there were 13 people on the ride. >> >> These rides make up the bulk of annual riding for almost all members of >> our club. The group on this ride were almost all retirees, and it seems >> to be their main form of recreation. I'm unusual in that I have other >> outdoor activities I also do regularly. >> >> I'm even more unusual in that I do use my bikes for utility purposes - >> transportation to the grocery or other stores, the library, friends' >> houses, etc. and in the past, transportation to work. This is so unusual >> here that it draws comments from other cyclists and has triggered my >> being interviewed by news outlets! >> >> America is different from Germany. >> >North America is to be very car centric, other places while they absolutely >have cars, they never went to the same extent, hence while my work >colleagues might of noted the distance I commute, I’d also really not get >into any news outlets as it’s just a non story. > >I tend to predominately use my bike for leisure bar the commute, but then >London is quite walkable. > >for example I dropped a bike off at the bike stop yesterday for some >fettling, sat in the cafe to have lunch next to the hairdressers and dry >cleaners. With the pharmacy and bakers opposite, today after some garden >work I again walked to the small supermarket and on way back sat in the >cafe for a short while watching the world go by. > >There is a bigger shopping “town” centre a quick bus/train trip away if I >need something there or just want to have a wander. > >I will need to take the car to go to see a film at the cinema or rather >it’s more convenient to do so, as occasionally is the way with living on >the edge of london. > >Roger Merriman > I've never done a group ride and I never will. My rides are strictly recreation these days and I always ride solo. The only other persons I've ever ridden with are my wife, my kids, and grandkids. I hate following, being followed, or have another rider beside me. I've had people ask to ride with me but I explain that neither of us would like that. Back when I rode faster I had people draft me but if I couldn't drop them, I slow down or stop. I tried biking to the grocery and I bought a nice Topeak basket for the Catrike, but it was not to my liking. I did it a couple of times and now the basket is on the shelf full of parts and stuff. I try to get in a ride every five days or so, but I have many other projects to attend to. I've been doing 50 miles. My last ride in 90+ heat really wore me down, so I may do less tomorrow. -- C'est bon Soloman