Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:53:19 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <1qbvvjlicmocd7rl859vlve22h6galrndg@4ax.com> <1jn00kl03kddk8rkhr3bnpabv7u5i9sout@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 15:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5572f89ae9dfbf383d66442eaeb2563a"; logging-data="3311682"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+vsy8qduloHA4/a3RBB+SAmjtTucOZ/pc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:3XbZIKL6gapZ64a21U8MKo3lQTI= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2870 On 4/18/2025 9:15 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 4/17/2025 9:23 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/17/2025 10:08 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>> On 4/17/2025 9:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh, and "speech" in the form of millionaire or corporate campaign >>>> contributions is an abomination. >>> >>> How so? >>> If I have an individual right to free speech (and I absolutely do), >>> then why may my right be curtailed when I join with others of like mind? >>> >>> It's a long standing feature of common law (well before USA) that >>> corporations are fictitious persons, entitled to rights of their >>> composite individuals when they act as one. >> >> Common law or not, I think the idea of a corporation being a "person" >> is nuts. But even if one accepts their "personhood," they should be >> limited to the amount of speech that _one_ person can produce. >> >> And "speech" measured in dollars is an abomination. >> >> > > Apply the same logic to  unions, fraternal organizations and political > parties and then think it over. I'd be willing to apply it to those. -- - Frank Krygowski