Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 07:23:31 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: How can gravity itself escape a black hole? Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <0c2d15b56c8574a409160470daacd2aa@www.novabbs.com> <13f2a19ad29e87b7198eb7327930be73@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: pl From: Maciej Wozniak In-Reply-To: <13f2a19ad29e87b7198eb7327930be73@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 19 Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tr3.iad1.usenetexpress.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.eu1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2024 06:23:30 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 1479 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <1803c405b732999f$374598$936536$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 1901 W dniu 01.11.2024 o 02:58, gharnagel pisze: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2024 0:35:07 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: >> >> It cannot. Therefore, it must move much faster than c. > > Actually, it's an energy thing, and particles that travel > faster than light lose energy the faster they go, so FTL > doesn't make it out either. > > Perhaps there are other reasons than that.  There is some > dithering about WHERE all the matter is.  As matter approaches > a BH, we, far away, see time slowing down for it and time stops > at the event horizon ... so it never makes it inside the BH:> it all piles up there just outside the surface. Sure, sure. And suppose the opposite situation: matter is immobile (wrt an observer) and it's BH approaching it. What's going to happen, poor mumbling idiot?