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From: john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
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Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain
Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 06:58:01 -0700
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On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:45:24 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2025-05-05 04:50, Don Y wrote:
>> On 5/4/2025 1:55 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-05-04 22:20, Don Y wrote:
>>>> On 5/4/2025 5:34 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> They have it because they need them more. They run isolated, they 
>>>>> can not rely on others to smooth their loads. As a result, some 
>>>>> islands have successfully run for days on solar/wind only.
>>>>
>>>> Is this just "taken in stride"?  Or, are residents alerted to special
>>>> "please be extra conservative in your energy use TODAY" requests?
>>>>
>>>> How does storage capacity correlate with "off hours" demand?
>>>
>>> They take it on stride.
>>> I don't live there, nor have visited. I think that the island that 
>>> stayed for a month on solar/wind doesn't have heavy industries, not by 
>>> far.
>> 
>> So, they did nothing "special" to avoid running out of power for that
>> time?  I.e., they were CONFIDENT in their available surplus (day
>> AND night) to stick with "life as usual"?
>
>Well, they had their diesel generators on standby. They did not have to 
>be confident, they simply were not needed for many days.
>
><https://www.endesa.com/es/la-cara-e/energias-renovables/gorona-viento-renovable>
>
>You can read it with an automated translator.
>
>The island is small.
>
><https://maps.app.goo.gl/p5FfPnhvFVKhRN4C8>
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Hierro>

I'm thinking that it doesn't snow there very much. A few days without
power won't kill many people.

Wind and solar, with 100% diesel backup, probably makes sense for
them. Diesel is expensive.